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**NOTE - NEAR INSTABILITY AT JOINT 49 DIRECTION = FX

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Hello,

Can you help me regarding unstable joints due to modeling of purlin to structure.

I tried to use master slave command inorder to link the purlin to the rafter but resulted to unstable joints as shown in

postrocessing/ instability tab.

Likeiwse a note  **NOTE - NEAR INSTABILITY AT JOINT    49   DIRECTION = FX shown also in .anl file.

My questions are:

1. Thus this note is to be neglected because it is just a note not a warning? pls also explain why?

2. Is it ok to model the purlins without using a small E (stiffness not neglected)?

3. Is master slave connection correct ?

Attached is the staad input.

Thank you.

STAADSPACE

STARTJOBINFORMATION

ENGINEERDATE13-May-16

ENDJOBINFORMATION

INPUTWIDTH79

**************************************************************************

UNITMETERKN

JOINTCOORDINATES

100.33.7; 200.30; 33.50.30; 470.33.7; 570.30; 603.63.7;

703.230; 83.53.230; 93.53.63.7; 1073.63.7; 1173.230;

1203.291670.616667; 1303.353331.23333; 1403.4151.85;

1503.476672.46667; 1603.538333.08333; 1773.291670.616667;

1873.353331.23333; 1973.4151.85; 2073.476672.46667;

2173.538333.08333; 223.53.291670.616667; 233.53.353331.23333;

243.53.4151.85; 253.53.476672.46667; 263.53.538333.08333; 270-0.90;

280-0.93.7; 293.5-0.90; 307-0.90; 317-0.93.7;

3203.391670.616667; 333.53.391670.616667; 3473.391670.616667;

3503.453331.23333; 363.53.453331.23333; 3773.453331.23333;

3803.5151.85; 393.53.5151.85; 4073.5151.85; 4103.576672.46667;

423.53.576672.46667; 4373.576672.46667; 4403.638333.08333;

453.53.638333.08333; 4673.638333.08333; 4703.330; 483.53.330;

4973.330; 5073.73.7; 513.53.73.7; 5203.73.7;

MEMBERINCIDENCES

127; 2511; 316; 4410; 538; 6712; 778; 869; 9811; 10910;

111117; 1328; 1485; 1010822; 10111213; 10121314; 10131415;

10141516; 1015166; 10161718; 10171819; 10181920; 10192021;

10202110; 10212223; 10222324; 10232425; 10242526; 1025269;

103679; 103768; 1038911; 1039810; 1040272; 1041281; 1042293;

1043305; 1044314; 10452728; 10463031; 10472729; 10482930;

10493233; 10503334; 10513536; 10523637; 10533839; 10543940;

10554142; 10564243; 10574445; 10584546; 10594748; 10604849;

10615251; 10625150; 10634732; 10643235; 10653538; 10663841;

10674144; 10684452; 10694833; 10703336; 10713639; 10723942;

10734245; 10744551; 10754934; 10763437; 10773740; 10784043;

10794346; 10804650;

DEFINEPMEMBER

61011TO1015PMEMBER1

111016TO1020PMEMBER2

10101021TO1025PMEMBER3

810PMEMBER4

STARTGROUPDEFINITION

MEMBER

_COLUMN1TO5

_SHEARPRIMARY79

_FIXPRIMARY6810111011TO1020

_SECONDARY10101021TO1025

_HB1036TO1039

_VB1314

_GRID11361011TO1015

_GRID2510101021TO1025

_GRID324111016TO1020

_GRIDA125791314

_GRIDB34810

ENDGROUPDEFINITION

**************************************************************************

SUPPORTS

2831FIXEDBUTMX

29FIXEDBUTMZ

2730FIXEDBUTMXMZ

DEFINEMATERIALSTART

ISOTROPICSTEEL

E2.05e+008

POISSON0.3

DENSITY76.8195

ALPHA1.2e-005

DAMP0.03

TYPESTEEL

STRENGTHFY253200FU407800RY1.5RT1.2

********DUMMY******

ISOTROPICDUMMY

E217.18

DENSITY0

TYPESTEEL

POISSON0.3

DAMP0.03

G7.88462e+007

ALPHA1.2e-005

TYPESTEEL

STRENGTHFY253200FU407800RY1.5RT1.2

STRENGTHRY1RT1

ISOTROPICCONCRETE

E2.17185e+007

POISSON0.17

DENSITY23.5616

ALPHA1e-005

DAMP0.05

TYPECONCRETE

STRENGTHFCU27579

ENDDEFINEMATERIAL

MEMBERPROPERTYEUROPEAN

1TO5TABLESTHE140B

1314TABLESTL60X60X5

1049TO1062TABLESTUPN80

10101021TO1025TABLESTIPE120

1036TO1039TABLEST21.3X2.3CHS

6111011TO1020TABLESTIPE120

810TABLESTIPE120

79TABLESTIPE120

MEMBERPROPERTYEUROPEAN

1040TO1044PRISYD0.3ZD0.3

1045TO1048PRISYD0.3ZD0.2

MEMBERPROPERTYAMERICAN

1063TO1080TABLESTL20202

CONSTANTS

BETA90MEMB1TO5

BETA45MEMB1314

MATERIALSTEELMEMB1TO1113141010TO10251036TO10391049TO1062

MATERIALDUMMYMEMB1063TO1080

MATERIALCONCRETEMEMB1040TO1048

********LOADINGS***********

STARTGROUPDEFINITION

FLOOR

_ROOF1049TO1080

_ROOF26TO111010TO1025

JOINT

_DISPL6TO81011

ENDGROUPDEFINITION

MEMBERRELEASE

791010STARTMYMZ

791025ENDMYMZ

1TO5STARTMXMYMZ

MEMBERTENSION

1036TO1039

MEMBERTRUSS

1314

SLAVEFYMYMZMASTER12JOINT32

SLAVEFYMYMZMASTER13JOINT35

SLAVEFYMYMZMASTER14JOINT38

SLAVEFYMYMZMASTER15JOINT41

SLAVEFYMYMZMASTER16JOINT44

SLAVEFYMYMZMASTER22JOINT33

SLAVEFYMYMZMASTER23JOINT36

SLAVEFYMYMZMASTER24JOINT39

SLAVEFYMYMZMASTER25JOINT42

SLAVEFYMYMZMASTER26JOINT45

SLAVEFYMYMZMASTER17JOINT34

SLAVEFYMYMZMASTER18JOINT37

SLAVEFYMYMZMASTER19JOINT40

SLAVEFYMYMZMASTER20JOINT43

SLAVEFYMYMZMASTER21JOINT46

SLAVEFYMYMZMASTER7JOINT47

SLAVEFYMYMZMASTER6JOINT52

SLAVEFYMYMZMASTER8JOINT48

SLAVEFYMYMZMASTER9JOINT51

SLAVEFYMYMZMASTER11JOINT49

SLAVEFXFYFZMYMZMASTER10JOINT50

DEFINEWINDLOAD

TYPE1WIND1

INT00.5580.6430.706HEIG0234

TYPE2WIND2

INT00.5580.6430.706HEIG0234

EXP1JOINT2357811

TYPE3WIND3

INT00.5580.6430.706HEIG0234

EXP1JOINT146910

LOAD1LOADTYPEDeadTITLEDEAD

SELFWEIGHTY-1

LOAD2LOADTYPEDeadTITLENON-MODELEDDL

***stairs***

***handrail***

***GRATINGS**

ONEWAYLOAD

_ROOFONE-0.07GYINCLINED

***checquered plate***

LOAD3LOADTYPERoofLiveTITLEIMPOSED

ONEWAYLOAD

_ROOFONE-0.4GYINCLINED

LOAD4LOADTYPENoneTITLEWIND +X

ONEWAYLOAD

_ROOFONE0.706GYINCLINED

WINDLOADX1TYPE1OPENMEMB_GRID1

WINDLOADX1TYPE1OPENMEMB_GRID2

WINDLOADX1TYPE1OPENMEMB_GRID3

LOAD5LOADTYPENoneTITLEWIND +Z

ONEWAYLOAD

_ROOF2ONE0.706GYINCLINED

WINDLOADZ1TYPE1OPENMEMB_GRIDA

WINDLOADZ1TYPE1OPENMEMB_GRIDB

*WIND LOAD Z 1 TYPE 2 YR 0 3.22 ZR 0 0.1 OPEN

*WIND LOAD Z 1 TYPE 3 YR 0 3.6 ZR 3.7 3.8 OPEN

LOAD6LOADTYPENoneTITLEWIND -X

ONEWAYLOAD

_ROOFONE0.706GYINCLINED

WINDLOADX-1TYPE1OPENMEMB_GRID1

WINDLOADX-1TYPE1OPENMEMB_GRID2

WINDLOADX-1TYPE1OPENMEMB_GRID3

LOAD7LOADTYPEWindTITLEWIND -Z

ONEWAYLOAD

_ROOF2ONE0.706GYINCLINED

WINDLOADZ-1TYPE1OPENMEMB_GRIDA

WINDLOADZ-1TYPE1OPENMEMB_GRIDB

*WIND LOAD Z -1 TYPE 2 YR 0 3.22 ZR 0 0.1 OPEN

*WIND LOAD Z -1 TYPE 3 YR 0 3.6 ZR 3.7 3.8 OPEN

LOAD8EN1990:6.10B,COMBINATION1000

REPEATLOAD

10.8520.85

LOAD9EN1990:6.10B,COMBINATION1002

REPEATLOAD

10.8520.8531.5

LOAD10EN1990:6.10B,COMBINATION1006

REPEATLOAD

10.8520.8541.5

LOAD11EN1990:6.10B,COMBINATION1008

REPEATLOAD

11.147520.85

LOAD12EN1990:6.10B,COMBINATION1010

REPEATLOAD

11.147520.8531.5

LOAD13EN1990:6.10B,COMBINATION1014

REPEATLOAD

11.147520.8541.5

LOAD14EN1990:6.10B,COMBINATION1016

REPEATLOAD

10.8521.1475

LOAD15EN1990:6.10B,COMBINATION1018

REPEATLOAD

10.8521.147531.5

LOAD16EN1990:6.10B,COMBINATION1022

REPEATLOAD

10.8521.147541.5

LOAD17EN1990:6.10B,COMBINATION1024

REPEATLOAD

11.147521.1475

LOAD18EN1990:6.10B,COMBINATION1026

REPEATLOAD

11.147521.147531.5

LOAD19EN1990:6.10B,COMBINATION1030

REPEATLOAD

11.147521.147541.5

******************************************

LOAD20EN1990:6.10B,COMBINATION2006

REPEATLOAD

10.8520.8551.5

LOAD21EN1990:6.10B,COMBINATION2014

REPEATLOAD

11.147520.8551.5

LOAD22EN1990:6.10B,COMBINATION2022

REPEATLOAD

10.8521.147551.5

LOAD23EN1990:6.10B,COMBINATION2030

REPEATLOAD

11.147521.147551.5

******************************************

LOAD24EN1990:6.10B,COMBINATION3006

REPEATLOAD

10.8520.8561.5

LOAD25EN1990:6.10B,COMBINATION3014

REPEATLOAD

11.147520.8561.5

LOAD26EN1990:6.10B,COMBINATION3022

REPEATLOAD

10.8521.147561.5

LOAD27EN1990:6.10B,COMBINATION3030

REPEATLOAD

11.147521.147561.5

*******************************************

LOAD28EN1990:6.10B,COMBINATION4006

REPEATLOAD

10.8520.8571.5

LOAD29EN1990:6.10B,COMBINATION4014

REPEATLOAD

11.147520.8571.5

LOAD30EN1990:6.10B,COMBINATION4022

REPEATLOAD

10.8521.147571.5

LOAD31EN1990:6.10B,COMBINATION4030

REPEATLOAD

11.147521.147571.5

*******************************************

LOAD100EN1990:6.10B,COMBINATION1000

REPEATLOAD

11.021.0

LOAD101EN1990:6.10B,COMBINATION1002

REPEATLOAD

11.021.031.0

LOAD102EN1990:6.10B,COMBINATION1006

REPEATLOAD

11.021.041.0

******************************************

LOAD103EN1990:6.10B,COMBINATION2006

REPEATLOAD

11.021.051.0

******************************************

LOAD104EN1990:6.10B,COMBINATION3006

REPEATLOAD

11.021.061.0

*******************************************

LOAD105EN1990:6.10B,COMBINATION4006

REPEATLOAD

11.021.071.0

PERFORMANALYSIS

DEFINEENVELOPE

8TO31ENVELOPE1TYPESTRENGTH

100TO105ENVELOPE2TYPESERVICEABILITY

ENDDEFINEENVELOPE

LOADLIST100TO105

PARAMETER1

CODEEN1993-1-1:2005

CAN1MEMB1TO5

TORSION1MEMB1TO111010TO1025

DFF300MEMB1TO5

DFF200MEMB6TO111010TO1025

DJ17MEMB61011TO1015

DJ26MEMB61011TO1015

DJ111MEMB111016TO1020

DJ210MEMB111016TO1020

DJ18MEMB10101021TO1025

DJ29MEMB10101021TO1025

DJ16MEMB810

DJ210MEMB810

SGR2MEMB1TO111010TO1025

RATIO1MEMB1TO5

TRACK4MEMB1TO111010TO1025

***column

CHECKCODEMEMB1TO5

**secondary

CHECKCODEMEMB10101021TO1025

***fixed primary trans

CHECKCODEMEMB6111011TO1020

***fixed primary long

CHECKCODEMEMB810

***pinned primary

CHECKCODEMEMB79

LOADLIST8TO31

PARAMETER2

CODEEN1993-1-1:2005

SGR2MEMB1TO111010TO1025

LY3.718MEMB61011TO1015

LZ3.718MEMB61011TO1015

LY3.718MEMB111016TO1020

LZ3.718MEMB111016TO1020

LY3.718MEMB10101021TO1025

LZ3.718MEMB10101021TO1025

LY7MEMB810

LZ7MEMB810

UNL3.718MEMB61011TO1015

UNL3.718MEMB111016TO1020

UNL3.718MEMB10101021TO1025

UNL3.5MEMB810

KY1MEMB1

KZ2.09398MEMB1

KY1.70873MEMB3

KZ1.77133MEMB3

KY1MEMB2

KZ2.09398MEMB2

KY1.70873MEMB4

KZ1.77133MEMB4

KY0.5MEMB5

KZ1.82845MEMB5

RATIO0.8MEMB1TO5

TRACK0MEMB1TO1113141010TO1025

***column

CHECKCODEMEMB1TO5

**secondary

CHECKCODEMEMB10101021TO1025

***fixed primary trans

CHECKCODEMEMB6111011TO1020

***fixed primary long

CHECKCODEMEMB810

***pinned primary

CHECKCODEMEMB79

***vertical brace

CHECKCODEMEMB1314

***horizontal brace

CHECKCODEMEMB1036TO1039

PRINTSTORYDRIFT

PERFORMANALYSISPRINTALL

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